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EXCLUSIVE Interview with deeproot – The Next Misadventure or a Pinball Revolution?

EXCLUSIVE Interview with deeproot – The Next Misadventure or a Pinball Revolution?


deeproot Pinball has been quietly making progress on their path and plan to become a major pinball manufacturing company.  They have been in licensing talks for several major pinball titles.  They are currently looking to hire a Pinball Game Designer and a Game Writer (click here for the openings and descriptions including salary).  They are hoping to have their manufacturing facility finalized in the next 2-3 weeks.


Before we explore where deeproot is currently and what their plans are going forward, let’s first take a step back and look at deeproot’s timeline.

Early 2015

deeproot Tech starts its pinball division – deeproot Pinball.  They contact several pinball designers and manufacturers.


Summer 2015

The deeproot team decides to shelve the pinball project until a later date.


October 2016

deeproot begins implementing their internal plan of action to become a pinball manufacturer.


Late 2016 – 2017

deeproot begins reaching out to several pinball designers.  After spending significant time weighing pros and cons, deeproot decides that pinball designer John Popadiuk (“JPop”) is the best option available.  They decided this knowing there would be backlash from some in the pinball community, and knowing they would need to address John’s past mistakes with Zidware.


  • John Popadiuk’s backstory and timeline

    • Here is the short-ish version (apologies for skipping over a lot of details):  A few years back, Popadiuk owned a company called Zidware, and planned to build three titles in limited quantities: Magic Girl, Retro Atomic Zombie Adventureland (RAZA), and Alice in Wonderland (AIW).  (Note: Magic Girl was to be limited to 26 machines, and RAZA limited to 124 machines.)  Zidware customers paid in part or in full for machines that had not been built yet (the “pre-order” model).  Popadiuk ran out of funds before any games were delivered.
    • American Pinball later built the Magic Girl machines and they were shipped to customers, however, despite the efforts of American Pinball, the game was incomplete.
    • Pre-order customers of RAZA and AIW have yet to receive a refund or a machine.
    • For more details on the timeline of JPop from July 2011 through 2017, click here.  You can also read 23,500+ posts on this Pinside thread.
  • John does not have money to refund Zidware customers or the means to build the Zidware machines, so any form of restitution would have to come with significant financial and manufacturing help of an outside source.

  • More Info


June 2017

deeproot begins to move forward with their plan to deal with JPop’s past and provide help to Zidware customers.


Early September 2017

Plaintiffs of the lawsuit and deeproot agree to terms on a settlement.  This settlement with the Plaintiffs will be essentially the same for all other former customers of Zidware.


September 14th, 2017

It is discovered on deeproot’s website that John Popadiuk is part of their team with the title Lead Game Development.  Confidential terms of the settlement are leaked to podcasters and others in the pinball community.  A thread is started on Pinside.com to inform many in the pinball community that JPop has resurfaced and is working with deeproot Pinball.  Notably, Jeremy Packer (aka Zombie Yeti) makes a post which includes: “I have been asked to sign over all copyrights free and clear as if I was fully compensated. I simply refuse.”  Podcasters released podcasts with harsh criticism of deeproot.  All of this, of course, caused severe negative reaction to deeproot since John Popadiuk still owed many Zidware customers refunds or machines.


September 18th, 2017

This Week in Pinball speaks to Robert Mueller, the man behind deeproot Tech, and posts A Conversation with Deeproot.  Robert shares:

  • deeproot plans to make Zidware customers whole
  • Robert: “Jpop is someone who needs to be managed”
  • deeproot does not plan to take any pre-order money or deposits for their machines
  • deeproot may change the title or tweak the layout of John’s already designed games
  • Robert believes he can build machines in a different and better way than other current manufacturers
  • deeproot hopes to make a public announcement in the coming weeks, then go dark for a long time until everything is ready


October 13th, 2017

deeproot retracts its settlement offer to the Plaintiffs.  For details and reasons for the retraction, click here.


October 21st, 2017

Robert Mueller and Jeremy Packer (Zombie Yeti) speak for the first time.  Jeremy verbally agrees to sign over the rights to the games in exchange for undisclosed consideration.


What is Happening Now

  • The deeproot web page launches TODAY (see below).
  • Zidware and deeproot are attempting to settle claims with American Pinball.
  • John Popadiuk’s title has been changed from Lead Game Developer to Game Designer.
  • deeproot started their AV Department with a Visualization Artist.
  • In addition to the two current job listings, in the coming months deeproot also plans to hire:
    • At least three new Mechanical Techs
    • Another Game Designer or two
    • A Scenarist (AV Dept)
    • A Sound Engineer (AV Dept)
    • Two Graphic Artists (AV Dept) or Animators
  • deeproot plans to contract out their Illustrators.

**EXCLUSIVE RELEASE – The deeproot Web Page**

 

As of today, the deeproot web page is now public:

https://zidware.deeproottech.com/

It includes the background of their pinball division, Goodwill Terms for non-Plaintiff Claimants, details of the attempted settlement between deeproot and the Plaintiffs of the lawsuit against Zidware, and over twenty FAQs.


**EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH DEEPROOT PINBALL**

 

This Week in Pinball:  Hiring John Popadiuk meant deeproot would either have to attempt to help the Zidware customers or face backlash from some in the pinball community.  Why start in pinball with that burden, why not go with a different designer?

 

deeproot: Other established pinball manufacturers had the opportunity to make the Zidware customers whole but declined.  deeproot is about doing things thought to be impossible.  deeproot will prove that it is possible to do impossible things, even in pinball.  We did try to work with multiple designers.  It is often overlooked that most of the designers (past or present) have been retained by other pinball companies.

 

TWIP:  Which other designers did you try to work with, and why didn’t those situations work out?

 

dr:  I appreciate the follow up question but I have to honor confidential negotiations. I also have to respect requests that some of these guys could get fired if it became public.

 

TWIP:  Were you surprised by the backlash of hiring JPop?

 

dr:  No.

 

TWIP:  If you could go back, would you still choose to work with JPop instead of a different designer?

 

dr:  John Popadiuk was the right decision at the right time.  It would have been nice to have had a little better luck with timing and PR, but it doesn’t change the decision being the right one.

 

TWIP:  Were there any considerations to hire a designer that was not established or did not have previous experience designing pinball machines?

 

dr:  Yes. For example, we reached out to Scott Danesi not realizing he had already signed on with Spooky. Most of the newer designers aren’t real established and it is hard to determine their ability to fit into a ‘structured R&D’ process or what their long term performance might be.  We are hoping our job posting will encourage some newer blood with limited design experience to step up.

 

TWIP: Why was John’s title changed?  Was he demoted?

 

dr:  John was not demoted.  With John still residing in Illinois, it quickly became clear that we needed a full time in house designer to tackle the work load while John is between his visits.

 

TWIP:  Why were the settlement terms with the Plaintiffs in the lawsuit retracted?

 

dr:  We addressed the reasons why the settlement failed on the website.

 

TWIP:  What is the current situation in the lawsuit against John Popadiuk and Zidware?

 

dr:  The Plaintiffs chose to continue to pursue litigation rather than accept deeproot’s reasonable settlement terms.

 

TWIP:  Is there any chance of a settlement with the Plaintiffs at this point?

 

dr:  The Plaintiffs had the power to accept or refuse the offer. If given a second chance, we do not know what they would choose.

 

TWIP:  Similar settlement terms would still apply to Zidware customers that were NOT involved in the lawsuit though, correct?

 

dr:  That is the objective, but we don’t know how many actually want to be made whole.

 

TWIP: Why do you think some may not want to be made whole? 

 

dr: We have been contacted by more people interested in buying the machines than are Zidware customers. We are not confident about how many of the Zidware customers will actually file a claim or not.

 

TWIP:  Has Jeremy Packer (Zombie Yeti) been paid in full for his work with Zidware?  Is he owed a Magic Girl game?

 

dr:  Jeremy and I agreed to not discuss these issues in public while the negotiations were ongoing.

 

TWIP:  Has pinsider Applejuice been paid in full for his work with Zidware?  Is he owed a Magic Girl game?

 

dr:  We have not heard from Applejuice.  According to Zidware records that we have seen, Applejuice was paid over $100k, and has been in material breach of several terms of his agreement with Zidware for some time.

 

TWIP: In breach of what terms of his agreement with Zidware?

 

dr:  At this point it is up to Zidware to enforce its own contract with this vendor. We will address this situation in the appropriate manner if this vendor continues to be defamatory or Zidware’s contractual rights are transferred to us.

 

TWIP: When we spoke in September, you said your first priority with deeproot was to “take care” of Zidware customers.  Can you give an update on these plans?

 

dr: The plans have been in place since June-July.  The reasons for the delay in announcing the plans were to give time to reach agreements with Jeremy, American Pinball, and the Plaintiffs.  We felt that it is the right time to release the plans, but will wait for those agreements to be resolved before taking claims.

 

TWIP:  Is there a general time frame for when agreements will be met with Jeremy, American Pinball, and the Plaintiffs?

 

dr:  I think these parties would be better able to answer that question. We have tried to be reasonable, but the ball is ultimately in their court.

 

TWIP:  What claims still need to be settled with American Pinball?

 

dr:  The arrangements between Zidware and American Pinball were a convoluted mess. To our knowledge, only a few people really know what happened.  Zidware and deeproot have both attempted to reach a settlement with American Pinball for months.  Dhaval has refused to negotiate or has stonewalled an amicable resolution.  We are discussing with our counsel how best to proceed.

 

TWIP:  What options are on the table?

 

dr:  In the many years I worked as an attorney, I found it hard to reason or negotiate with people who don’t know what they don’t know.  According to Dhaval, their attorney has been looking at our proposed documents for three months now.  We would prefer they sign the reasonable docs and go about their business selling Houdini’s to their hearts content without a disruption of their business with injunctive action.

 

TWIP: Is it possible that deeproot could delay Houdini manufacturing?

 

dr: We wish American Pinball the best in their pinball efforts. However unresolved legal issues they helped create need to be addressed and resolved. Right now their arguments have no apparent contractual or legal basis.  They put themselves in this position and have the power to take themselves out of it.  There is little to nothing they can blame John for, though I’m sure they will try.

 

TWIP: It appears that deeproot is involved in many different ventures.  Why choose pinball as a new venture?

 

dr:  We wanted to do something in the tech arena, and pinball was a passion that made sense.  Plus we figured we could be a fresh voice of reason in a small, very dysfunctional industry.

 

TWIP:  Why do you describe the pinball industry as dysfunctional? 

 

dr:  There is ample evidence of the amount of drama that this industry experienced over recent years. It is hard to believe that any current participant in this industry would be able to thrive in a more mature or competitive industry. I’ve built businesses and competed in multiple industries much more crowded and cutthroat than the pinball industry.  That’s what makes doing pinball so easy for us.

 

TWIP: Do you have the capability, expertise, experience, and financial resources to manufacture pinball machines in large quantities?

 

dr:  Sure.  Why not?

 

TWIP:  I ask this question because, as you know, in the last few years, this community has had several start up pinball companies not delivered what was promised, and several other startups that are having significant struggles in trying to manufacture pinball machines.  It seems like nearly every company that has started since 2011 has had significant hurdles, significant delays, and in many cases had to be bailed out by bringing in additional investors.  What makes deeproot different from the other startups? 

 

dr: Unlike everyone else in the industry who shows off something shiny and then does the immediate take away, we simply are not going to tell everyone what we’re doing.  When the masterpiece is ready, we will unveil it for everyone to enjoy. It is hard to believe that we (who arguably have more capitalization then all the other pinball participants combined and having accomplished the impossible in other industries) would not be able to find a way to do something as easy as pinball.

 

TWIP: That is twice you’ve said pinball is “easy”.  Do you think manufacturing pinball machines will be easy?

 

dr: I’ll let people decide for themselves when they can see what we’ve done.

 

TWIP: Do you think deeproot can be the largest pinball manufacturer at some point in the future?

 

dr: That would infer that we intend to compete as the market currently dictates. We think our end product will speak for itself.

 

TWIP: What do you mean when you refer to “the masterpiece”?

 

dr: Our technology, standards, and products at launch.

 

TWIP:  Do you still plan to not take ANY preorder money from customers?

 

dr:  I think we were very clear that that will never happen.

 

TWIP: In our previous conversation you mentioned deeproot would manufacture pinball machines “in a different way” than anyone.  How so?

 

dr:  Unfortunately this will be something that will make the most sense when we launch…

 

TWIP:  Looking at the Goodwill Terms on the new web page – will new deeproot pinball machines cost less than $5,000?

 

dr:  Each of the major pinball manufacturers have a different cost/profit/quality profile.  We will have our own as well. We will weigh the retail price of each machine based on its own profile. The market will have a strong influence on determining retail prices as well.

 

TWIP: Do you plan for the quality and depth of the machines to be similar to, for example, a Stern Pinball machine, Spooky Pinball machine, or Jersey Jack Pinball machine?

 

dr:  We intend for our final games to be better quality than what currently exists, more profitably made.  We will not be selling more than one model for each title which will simplify a lot of things behind the scenes.

 

TWIP:  Better quality machines than any other current manufacturers, including Stern and Jersey Jack? 

 

dr:  Quality is subjective. People typically don’t judge a Ferrari by the gas cap it uses. It’s equally difficult to judge a pinball manufacturer by a particular title. Or a range of titles. Each manufacturer will have its own style and product profile. While some people might currently think that JJP is better quality than Stern, it wasn’t always the case. Our view is this… what’s the point of making a Ferrari with Ferrari prices and Ferrari costs. Ferrari already does that. We would love to make a Ferrari with KIA prices and KIA costs. No offense to Ferrari or KIA in this example. At the end of the day it would be hard to imagine any existing pinball manufacturer able to compete with us on the deeproot perfect blend of product line, price, costs, and quality.

 

TWIP:  So going with the car analogy, you’re planning to make Ferrari-quality machines, and sell them at a discount “KIA” cost?  That seems unrealistic, how would that be possible?

 

dr:  Two responses. First, I was using the example as an analogy or metaphor (take your pick) to the current pinball industry players. Second, it is easy for the pessimists to dismiss this as aspirational silly talk.  We are ok with this. We aren’t holding our breath for apologies when we prove the pessimists wrong.

 

TWIP: Who is your target market for deeproot pinball machines?

 

dr: We think our goal is to epitomize our company motto, “Every family needs a pinball, every pinball needs a family”.

 

TWIP:  Does that mean everyone will be the target market, from hardcore pinheads to very casual pinball fans? 

 

dr:  Even that is too restrictive.

 

TWIP: What does that mean – are you looking at creating a “new” market?

 

dr: People will understand this more in time after the 5 days of deeproot.

 

TWIP: What is the 5 days of deeproot? 

 

dr: 🙂

 

TWIP: Is deeproot looking to be a type of “disruptor” in the pinball industry, similar to Uber in the automotive transportation industry?

 

dr: We don’t like the fad, overused ‘disrupt’ determiner.  We intend to launch with the “5 days of deeproot” when everything is ready to go.  We will leave it to the market whether to regard our entrance into the pinball industry as a “disruption”, “revolution”, or something else.

 

TWIP: If you settle with American Pinball and secure rights for the artwork from Zombie Yeti, do you plan to produce Magic Girl, Retro Atomic Zombie Adventureland, and Alice in Wonderland? 

 

dr: That would make sense. I personally think all three of these titles are amazing and should be enjoyed by people all over the world.

 

TWIP: Can you share anything about any other titles or licenses you are pursuing? 

 

dr:  No. For many reasons we’re not going to discuss titles prior to launch.

 

TWIP:  As part of the Goodwill Terms on the web page, you state “deeproot Tech will deliver elected game(s) no later than June 30, 2019″.  Is that when we can expect to see a deeproot pinball machine for sale?

 

dr:  When the masterpiece is ready, we will let everyone know. By the very terms, that would be the latest date permitted.


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Name the Game – Monthly Giveaway

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December Giveaway – Enter to Win a Pin Stadium Lights Kit!

December Giveaway – Enter to Win a Pin Stadium Lights Kit!

Because we love our readers, we are teaming up with Pin Stadium Lights for the month of December to give away a FREE Pin Stadium Lights Kit!  To enter, visit this website and enter your info.  That’s it!

 

Also just in time for the holiday season, you can save 10% off your purchase at pinstadium.com by entering promo code “twip”!  Once you add the item to the cart, select “View Cart” and from there you will be able to enter the code.

 

Pin Stadium Lights are a hot product! (Get it??)

 

Unfamiliar with this product?  This Week in Pinball will be doing a full review of Pin Stadium Lights soon, but below is just one example of a Twilight Zone with and without the Pin Stadium Lights – check it out!

 

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TWIP – EXCLUSIVE: deeproot – the Next Misadventure or a Pinball Revolution?, Guardians Stream, Cyber Monday Deals, More

TWIP – EXCLUSIVE: deeproot – the Next Misadventure or a Pinball Revolution?, Guardians Stream, Cyber Monday Deals, More

The Scoop

Guardians of the Galaxy Stream Highlights

Last week, Dead Flip (TwitchFacebookTwitter) streamed the newest pinball machine from Stern Pinball, Guardians of the Galaxy.  The stream was very well done with direct video from the display: watch the full stream here.


General Notes

  • There were no callouts.
    • Hate to start with a negative, but it was pretty glaring that the callouts were missing.  Stern plans to have custom callouts from licensor-approved voice actors, but ran into some unexpected hold ups with approvals before the stream.  When the stream was originally scheduled, they had planned to have the callouts included but some things out of their control changed that.  We’re hearing rumors that the callouts will include Rocket the Raccoon, and that they are hilarious.  Hopefully we’ll see an update with the callouts soon as it sounds like they are going to be very entertaining!
  • The two licensed songs from the movie (Hooked on a Feeling and Cherry Bomb) start when you’re not in a mode.
  • The game is shipping with 0.65 code.


A Few Rules


Some Clips from the Display


Game Features Shown on Stream


Bonus Material


A Few Non-Stream Links for GOTG

 


**EXCLUSIVE:  deeproot – the Next Misadventure or a Pinball Revolution?

deeproot Pinball has been quietly making progress on their path and plan to become a major pinball manufacturing company.  They have been in licensing talks for several major pinball titles.  They are currently looking to hire a Pinball Game Designer and a Game Writer (click here for the openings and descriptions including salary).  They are hoping to have their manufacturing facility finalized in the next 2-3 weeks.

 

This Week in Pinball will be sharing an **EXCLUSIVE** interview with deeproot on Thursday.  Some of the topics covered include:

 

  • Why they hired John Popadiuk
  • Updates on deeproot’s efforts to make Zidware customers/vendors whole
  • Information on their upcoming public announcement
  • Why deeproot Tech decided to pursue pinball as a new venture
  • What type of build quality to expect from deeproot (hint: using a car comparison, they want to build a Ferrari and sell it at KIA prices)
  • What is deeproot Pinball’s target market (hint: its you)
  • The possibility of mass producing Magic Girl, Retro Atomic Zombie Adventureland, and Alice in Wonderland

 

deeproot is extremely confident that they will be a very successful pinball manufacturer.  The interview will make some in the pinball community angry, some won’t believe anything deeproot says, and some will be skeptical but quietly hopeful/excited.  Stay tuned!



Cyber Monday Deals – Last Chance to Enter to Win a Free Shooter Rod

This Week in Pinball compiled a list of Black Friday and Cyber Monday pinball deals – check out the list here.  We’re also giving away a FREE custom shooter rod courtesy of Wizard Amusement!

 

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Details: Entries will be closed at the end of Cyber Monday, and drawing will be held on Tuesday.  Winner will choose shooter rod based on Wizard Amusements inventory, which varies week to week.


Statement from Heighway Pinball

Last week, This Week in Pinball shared that there is some frustration in the pinball community regarding the prospect of new titles being worked on at Heighway Pinball when there are people that are still owed refunds from Heighway, and that there has also been frustration over the lack of communication from Heighway.  We reached out to Heighway Pinball concerning these frustrations and received the following response:

 

“We are not uninterested and we are not ignoring, but I admit we have a hard time coping with everything. The task of turning this business around is huge to say the least. We are on course to do it though and are committed to succeed. Which we will, even it takes longer than most people including ourselves would have wanted. We understand that people are upset and we do get that it is hard to understand why we are doing what we are doing. In time it will all be understood though and, even more importantly, everybody will get what they have paid for. Once that has been achieved we will continue making great pinball machines for years to come. New exciting titles are in the making, even though they obviously are a non-priority for the time being and will so be until the old legacy has been managed properly.”

 

Heighway also sent a letter out to customers – read the full letter here.  It addressed reasons behind the lack of communication.  One insightful part of the letter addressed the timeline of refunds and production, and went on to discuss some updates on the Limited Edition model:

 

“In order to maximise production of machines for our Distributors and for you, we have adopted a clear strategy and cashflow plan that prioritises production of machines over all aspects of the business. In this regard, we have a production/ cashflow schedule that deliberately spreads the shipping of pre-ordered machines and remaining refunds from the previous CEO’s time over a number of months. Similarly on the fixes for the machines shipped in the first months of this year. You will get your machines but we will not ship them all together. We have to do it this way if we are to continue to turn this business around, having decided to save it in June. We have your orders and plan to ship to you all. Some of your orders date back to 2014!

 

On the LEs, there are two coming pieces of news. Firstly, the 3 trims of the LE are currently being made up. Once we have them back at the factory, we will show you pictures of the production choices you have; Black, Blue and Green. In addition, we have negotiated with Roman Glass the option to supply their Roman/ PDI glass on our machines. This add on is offered at $250/ £195/ €220 once Roman’s first pallet arrives at the factory during December.”

 


Christopher Franchi Working on Two Titles to be Release at Expo 2018

On Kaneda’s Pinball Podcast, Christopher Franchi shared some interesting information regarding his current projects (check out the full episode on Sound Cloud here).  First, he is working on a new title for Stern which is supposed to be released at the Pinball Expo in Chicago in the fall of next year.  Second, he is also working on the next Ka-Pow title, which is also expected to be released at Expo next year.  Click here to listen to the portion of the interview where Franchi discusses these projects.

 

Regarding possible themes for the Ka-Pow game, Franchi says “It is something that people are extremely familiar with.  I think its also something that some people thought would never happen…it’s very big…this is something that crosses many cultures.”


Circus Maximus Second Title – Kingpin?

A little background: Circus Maximus is a company that is working on Python’s Pinball Circus and a second unnamed title (click here for updates on the Pinball Circus project).  The Kaneda Pinball Podcast also had an episode last week that shared that the second title would be Kingpin, which is one of the machines that has been rumored to be the second title.  Check out the podcast here.

 

Paul Kiefert is a driving force behind Circus Maximus – check out the pic to the right on his personal Facebook page…the caption reads “This is what happens when a friend says we can do anything we want with his pinball machine and he leaves to pick up supplies for dinner.” …and the machine they are working on is Kingpin.

 

TWIP can neither confirm nor deny this claim that Circus Maximus is working on a Kingpin, but if they were to do a Kingpin remake, the game would not be a 100% exact remake as it would have new graphics and possible tweaks from the original game designer.  🙂


Thunderbirds Playfield Changes

Homepin announced last week that they have made changes to the Thunderbirds playfield: “We are almost finished the updating of Thunderbirds playfield plastics. Many small changes, some minor, some major. Many changes because we have shifted things around on the playfield based on our feedback from Pinfest and Brisbane showings.”  They included the picture on the left of the playfield plastics.  For the Facebook post, please click here.


The Silverball Saloon – Opening Wednesday!

Our friend Bruce from the Slam Tilt Podcast (Podcast Garden, Facebook, TwitchYouTube) has been hard at work preparing for the opening of The Silverball Saloon, and it opens to the public on November 29th!  Located in Rochester, New York (upstate NY between Buffalo and Syracuse), The Silverball Saloon will feature food, drinks, pool, darts, and of course pinball.  For a sneak peak at their menu, click here.  Check out their Facebook page for updates, and most importantly stop in for a drink and food and some pinball – help support those that are helping spread pinball!


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Upcoming Games and Rumors

Stern Pinball

Most Recent Titles

  • Aerosmith
  • AC/DC Vault Edition
  • Star Wars
  • Guardians of the Galaxy

Announced/Confirmed

  • Elvira 3

Rumors of Future Titles

  • Iron Maiden?
  • Jurassic World?
  • Deadpool?
  • Pulp Fiction?
  • New Ka-Pow Title?
  • Steve Ritchie Unlicensed?
  • Keith Elwin Game?


Spooky Pinball

Most Recent Titles

  • Rob Zombie’s Spookshow International
  • Dominos (*contract game)
  • Jetsons (*contract game)
  • Total Nuclear Annihilation (*contract/house game)

Announced/Confirmed

  • Alice Cooper’s Nightmare Castle
  • Ben Heck’s game


American Pinball

Most Recent Titles

  • Houdini


Dutch Pinball

Most Recent Titles

  • Bride of Pinbot 2.0
  • Bride of Pinbot 3.0 (on hold)
  • The Big Lebowski (production issues)


Circus Maximus

  • The Pinball Circus Remake
  • Kingpin?


Silver Castle Pinball

  • Timeshock (coming soon)

Jersey Jack Pinball

Most Recent Titles

  • Wizard of Oz
  • The Hobbit
  • Dialed In
  • Pirates of the Caribbean

Rumors of Future Titles

  • Toy Story?
  • Willy Wonka?
  • The Muppets?


Chicago Gaming/Planetary Pinball

Most Recent Titles

  • Medieval Madness Remake
  • Attack From Mars Remake

Rumors of Future Titles

  • Monster Bash Remake?
  • Big Bang Bar Remake?
  • Cactus Canyon Remake?


Heighway Pinball

Most Recent Titles

  • Full Throttle
  • Alien (shipping)

Rumors of Future Titles

  • Queen?
  • Barry Oursler Licensed Theme
  • Barry Oursler UnLicensed Theme


P3 (Multimorphic)

  • Lexy Lightspeed
  • Cannon Lagoon
  • Cosmic Cart Racing


Homepin

  • Thunderbirds (coming soon)


Phénix Pinball

  • Olympic Goblin


Deeproot Pinball

  • Retro Atomic Zombie Adventureland?
  • Alice in Wonderland?
  • Magic Girl?

 

 

**TWIP dreams of the day Harry Potter Pinball will be added to these rumors. Ms. Rowling, I’d be willing to share a stall with Moaning Myrtle if you approve this!


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Black Friday Pinball Deals!

Black Friday Pinball Deals!

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!  Thanksgiving isn’t celebrated in all countries, but for America it is a day that kicks off the holiday season.  We get together with friends and family and watch a parade.  We watch American football.  We eat a lot.  (Ok, the eating a lot isn’t that much different than any other day.)   The day AFTER Thanksgiving is Black Friday, when – the day after we give thanks, we go out and trample people and get into fights to get the best sales deals.  Check out below for some of the best deals in PINBALL!  But first…

 

***EXCLUSIVE THIS WEEK IN PINBALL GIVEAWAY – THIS WEEKEND ONLY!***

 

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Example shooter rods (subject to availability)

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Details: Entries will be closed at the end of Cyber Monday, and drawing will be held on Tuesday.  Winner will choose shooter rod based on Wizard Amusements inventory, which varies week to week.

Black Friday Weekend Pinball Deals

Did we miss a deal?  Email us at thisweekinpinball@gmail.com and we’ll add it!


Wizard Amusement

http://www.wizardamusement.com

Details

Contact Wizard Amusements here and mention THIS WEEK IN PINBALL for free shipping and 10% off all custom shooter rods – deal runs through cyber Monday.


Pinball Bulbs

https://www.pinballbulbs.com

Details

Their highest discount ever of Ultimate LED Kits. 25% off ALL Ultimate LED kits PLUS 1 FREE Single color speaker light kit with each purchase.  BlackFriday17 – Gets you the 25% off Ultimate LED Kit.  FreeSpeaker17 – Combines with code above to get the free single color speaker kit of their choice!


Pin Stadium Lights

http://www.pinstadium.com

Details

Offering a 15% discount off of the Pin Stadiums for the first 100 customers for Black Friday starting early at Thanksgiving Day through Saturday 11/23-11/25. Use discount code “bfriday”.


Comet Pinball

https://www.cometpinball.com

Details

It’s time for Comet Pinball’s one big blowout sale of the year. Save up to 25% on selected products. Orders over $99 get free shipping, and orders over $199 get a free sample kit of our Matrix products – a $22 value!


Titan Pinball

https://www.titanpinball.com

Details

20% off all orders over $50 Friday November 24 to Monday November 27 at midnight… coupon code TITAN17BF – the 20% off applies to ALL products on the Titan website EXCEPT the 50 piece Universal ring kits, Titan Pinmats, and the 100 piece Competition Bulk Variety Pack.  Also free shipping for orders over $250 to the contiguous USA.


Arcade Made

https://arcademade.com

Details

GET 25% OFF through Monday at ArcadeMade.com.  Pinball & Arcade T-shirts.  Use “takeoff25” to get 25% off order of $25 or more.  Use “takeoff15” to get 15% off order.  Dimming backbox panels now available for SPIKE as well all for only $45!


Arcade Upkeep

http://www.arcadeupkeep.com

Details

We will be running our sale from black friday through cyber monday. All of our dimming backbox panels and under cabinet kits will be $20 off (that’s 30% off the backbox kits.) Also if you order 3 or more kits you get free shipping, which due to the size of the backbox panels they can be expensive to ship. This year we are doing something a little different than before in that we never had backbox panels for Sterns Spike and Spike 2 machines and we will finally have those available for the first time and they are included in the sale price as well. That makes all of our dimming backbox panels, regular Stern and the Spike panels only $45 each.


Chrome Candy

https://chromecandy.com

Details

Get a 25% discount on our shooter rods through Cyber Monday. Enter “PINSIDE2017”.


CoinTaker

https://cointaker.com

Details

Online orders only: Spend $400.00 and receive a free CoinTaker shaker motor.  Use coupon code: “blkfriday” limit 1 per order.  Sale starts today and ends December 2.


Double Danger Pinball

https://www.ddpinball.com

Details

Get 20% off with promo code ‘blackfriday’ – they will also have some limited run products available for the weekend only or until sold out.


FlashInstinct

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1054-flashinstinct/all

Details

Friday through Monday, Bally Williams Warning and Data East Warning decals on sale at Buy one get one FREE. Everything else is 25% off.  Also – not on sale but being release 11/24 – brand new Total Nuclear Annihilation decals – check them out here!


Flipper Fidelity

https://flipperfidelity.com

Details

All speaker systems are 7% off our regular price, plus some “Special Edition” systems – these speaker systems are very aggressively priced, but limited in quantity, click here for details.


Fun! Billiards and Gameroom Superstore

https://pinballandmore.com

Details

We will be offering brand new 60 in 1 Multicade Cocktail Arcade Games for $995 each. Normally $1695.  Available at the above mentioned price from Friday, November 24th – Monday, November 27th.


Hooked on Pinball

https://www.hookedonpinball.com

Details

No codes needed! Discounts will be loaded TG day by 10am eastern time sale will last till Saturday midnight.  AC/DC lightning bolts 15% off while supplies lastHuge pop bumper sale up to 15% to 40% off (Tron , TWD, AC/DC ,Avengers and Metallica pops to be specific)!LARGE discount on accessories and dress up items.  Also discounting other random items on site to include clearance items.  Free t-shirts on orders over $200 before shipping.  You will be contacted after purchase on shirt sizes limited to on hand stock.


Lee’s Parts

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1028-lee-s-parts/all

Details

10% off individual pricing of all Mods (Excludes Packages, Build your own package and Extras & Misc Parts).  LeesParts Pop Bumper T-Shirts for only $10 while supplies last.  Simply place your order between 11/24/2017 and 11/27/2016 then PM Lee through this post on Pinside and he will refund the 10% discount.


Lermods

https://lermods.com

Details

15% off all undercabinet and backbox lighting mods. Coupon code is blackfriday17 – plus free domestic shipping on all mods.


Lights Out Pinball

https://www.lightsoutpinball.com

Details

15% off all LED bulbs and LED kits, 10% off Convolux fluorescent Protective plastics (over 110 games in 5 colors now), and 10% off Titan premium rubber parts and kits as well as Titan pinballs. Code : blackfriday2017


Metal Mods

http://www.metal-mods.com

Details

25% off now through 11:59 PM Monday night for Thanksgiving/Black Friday. Just checkout as normal and they will refund 25%


MI Pinball Refinery

https://www.mipinballrefinery.com

Details

Offering 10% off from my website prices on upgrades and powder coating (excludes all new and used pinball machines and official licensed Stern products). Discount Code is BF2017.


Mod My Pin

https://shop.modmypin.com

Details

Offering 20% off Glo-balls and t-shirts. Runs November 21-28.


Modfather Pinball Mods

https://modfatherpinball.com

Details

Weekend sale: 15% off entire inventory with the discount code “mods”


PinballSTAR Amusements

http://pinballstar.com

Details

Running Black Friday deals that they can’t advertise – please email Joe at Sales@PinballSTAR.com for list of deals.


Pinball-Mods

http://pinball-mods.com

Details

16% off subtotal for all Pinball-Mods.com products while supplies last. Discount does not apply to shipping.  Does not include Nycon (STNG Dress Kit) or Pinball.Center products (pop bumper bodies).  Sale will begin Black Friday (no earlier than 12:01am CST) and run thru Cyber Monday.  Must Enter Discount Code: BF2017


Pinball Pro

http://pinballpro.com

Details

$100 off orders over $1,000 (use code BF17100), $50 off orders over $500 (use code BF1750), $25 off orders over $250 (use code BF1725), $10 off orders over $100 (use code BF1710)


Pinball Side Mirrors

https://pinballsidemirrors.com

Details

Regular mirror price will be on sale for $59.99.


Pinball Solutions

www.pinballsolutions.eu

Details

Free shipping for Bally and Zaccaria LED displays to US, Canada & Australia, use coupon code: blackisblack


Pincades

http://pincades.com

Details

Any American Pinball (Houdini) ONLY $100 Deposit required to secure a spot on out list as well as a $250.00 Deposit on Jersey Jack Pinball (POTC).  Any deliveries outside of Indiana NO tax charged!  We will also be offering other perks as well for pre ordering.  Contact info@pincades.com or catch us on out FB page. or call 219-924-PINS (7467) for more info.


PinGraffix

https://www.pingraffix.com

Details

15% percent off all orders.


Pinnovators

http://www.pinnovators.com/catalog/

Details

Friday through Monday, 15% off.


Pinsanity Pinball

http://pinsanitypinball.com

Details

$10 off t-shirts from the last Pinsanity tournament. Normally they are $25, they will now be $15 + shipping if you use coupon code: pinsanity10


PinSound

https://www.pinsound.org

Details

Not released yet but they are having a sale that will be announced Friday – check their website or Pinside on 11/24 for details.


Playfield Protectors

https://www.playfield-protectors.com

Details

Buy Two, Get One Free – order any two playfield protectors on Black Friday and you will get a third protector for free.  To order, first order two (or more) playfield protectors on Friday. You will get an order confirmation.  Reply directly: Subject – “I want one more…” Text – name the playfield protector The free protector will be added to your order.


Siegecraft Electronics

http://www.siegecraft.us

Details

From November 23rd through November 30th, 15% off your entire order at Siegecraft Electronics (shipping excluded). Just enter the code 15off2017 at time of checkout. Code MUST be entered to receive this discount.


Swinks Pinball (via Shapeways)

https://www.shapeways.com

Details

Cyber Monday – Free Shipping anywhere in the world.


T-Molding

https://www.t-molding.com

Details

10% off all orders thru Cyber Monday – use a coupon code of Cyber2017FB


Tim’s Pinball Mods

https://www.timspinballmods.com

Details

Get your favorite pinball mods starting November 23 at 6pm.  Ends November 27th at midnight.  10% Off all Orders *USE COUPON CODE: “BFCM10OFF”, free shipping on orders over $50, you can also sign up for the Pinball Points Program to start saving money. Feedback/Corrections?  Email thisweekinpinball@gmail.com.


ULEK Store

http://www.ulekstore.com

Details

Save 25% on purchases over $10, use the coupon code: BFW17 during check out – 11/24-11/27


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Name the Game – Monthly Giveaway

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TWIP – Guardians of the Galaxy New Details, Dead Flip Stream Details, Willy Wonka?, More

TWIP – Guardians of the Galaxy New Details, Dead Flip Stream Details, Willy Wonka?, More

The Scoop

Guardians of the Galaxy New Details/Video

We learned a lot this past week about the newest pinball machine from Stern Pinball, Guardians of the Galaxy.  Here is the rundown:

 

  • MUSIC & CALLOUTS
    • The game will include two licensed songs from the movie (no additional songs after these two are planned):
    • In addition to the licensed songs, there are four orchestral scores
    • There will be custom callouts from licensor-approved voice actors
  • ACCESSORIES
    • Interactive topper (check it out here)
    • Inner art blades (check them out here and here and here and here)
    • Baby Groot shooter knob (check it out here and here)
    • Laser cut armor in black or gold (check it out here)
    • The GOTG Limited Edition will have different art blades that are unique and exclusive to the LE (and not available to be purchased individually)

 

We also got to see some gameplay footage at the IAAPA show in Orlando, Florida last week.  Most of the video was cell phone quality – think of it as a preview to the Dead Flip stream coming up today (November 20th), which will be higher quality video and better players (no offense to those that filmed, all in the pinball community thank you! 🙂 ).  Here are some of the better pieces of video footage from the show:

 

More coverage of GOTG can be found below:


Dead Flip Stream Details

The official gameplay reveal will be tonight (November 20th) at 7:00 PM EST by Dead Flip (TwitchFacebookTwitter)!  Here are a few additional details about the stream:

  • Jack Danger of Dead Flip will be joined by Zach Sharpe, and possibly Keith Elwin, Lonnie Ropp, John Borg and others
  • The stream will be on a Guardians of the Galaxy Pro Model
  • The stream will feature NEW code

 

Make sure to tune in tonight and watch – here is the link when it goes live!


Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory Coming from JJP?

The rumor for the next game from Jersey Jack Pinball is Toy Story, but there has been a lot of speculation about the game after Toy Story.  Last week many trusted sources shared that the next game after Toy Story is rumored to be Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.  Will it happen?  We’ll have to wait and see!


Alien Updates

Heighway Pinball announced this week that they are finishing up the first production run of Alien Standard Editions, and the second production run has started.  The second production run will include both Standard Edition and Limited Editions with the hopes of shipping LEs in December.  They also announced they had dropped the idea of fiber optic ramp lighting on the LE, but are looking into an option for non-reflective playfield glass.  For the full update, click here.

 

David Thiel, who is working on the sounds and music for the Alien pinball machine, made this post on Pinside sharing that he finally received an Alien production game.  This will allow him to add the missing assets for the final mode, All Out War.  The team will also be working on some refinements and hope to release an update in mid-December that will be “100% complete and polished”.


Heighway Pinball’s Next Games Info – and Refunds?

According to Pinball Magazine’s Who’s Working on What?, during Barry Oursler’s seminar at Dutch Pinball Expo, Barry revealed the following about his work with Heighway Pinball:

  • So far he has designed three playfield layouts for new games
  • The game that is planned to be announced at the Texas Pinball Festival in March is a licensed theme and a widebody
  • The second design is for a licensed theme
  • The third design is for an original unlicensed theme

 

It sounds like Heighway is planning for the future which is obviously necessary for running a business, however, there is some frustration in the pinball community with prospect of new games being announced when there are people that are still owed refunds from Heighway.  There has also been frustration over the lack of communication from Heighway.  It is great to see Alien machines getting to owners and it is exciting to think about possible new games, but we hope to see better communication from Heighway, and necessary refunds coming soon.  (Note: This Week in Pinball have reached out to Heighway Pinball for more information on refunds and their communication multiple times but have not received any responses.)


Is Stern Doing an Unlicensed Theme?  Yes!  Wait, No!  Maybe?

As previously reported on This Week in Pinball, Stern Pinball designer Steve Ritchie recently commented on Facebook: “I’m sick of licenses right now.  I’m having REAL FUN doing what I’m doing on my next!” – check out the comment in the pic to the left.  Then, Steve Ritchie confirmed his next theme would be unlicensed during his presentation at Expo (listen to the audio here (sorry for the poor quality)!).  THEN, at IAAPA, Gary Stern did an interview with Jeff Teolis from the Pinball Profile (Facebook, TwitterPodcast Garden) and seem to indicate he is against an unlicensed theme (listen to the  audio here (sorry for the poor quality!).  So where do we land…leaning towards maybe?


New York City Pinball Championships

Last week it was announced that New York City would finally once again be home to a major pinball tournament, the New York City Pinball Championships!  Why is it a big deal that a major tournament is coming back to NYC?  Here are a few reasons:

  • Tradition:  The Professional and Amateur Pinball Association (PAPA), one of the largest and most prestigious pinball tournaments in the world and one of the most difficult to win, started in New York City and was held there from 1991-1995.  New York City has not been home to a major pinball tournament since the 90s – until now.
  • Location:  It is New York City!  It is the largest city in the United States by far, with twice the population of Los Angeles, and is a major tourist destination.  The pinball tournament will be located in historic Hell’s Kitchen, with Times Square, Central Park and many other NYC landmarks just blocks away.
  • Exposure:  Holding a major pinball tournament in New York City is a great way to grow pinball.  Back in the 90s when the PAPA tournament was held in NYC, top pinball players were featured on TV shows and the tournament was highlighted on many news organizations.  Here are just a few examples of many:

 

For more details on the tournament which takes place May 18th-20th, please visit the tournament website here or read TWIPs overview of the tournament here.  Looking forward to this tournament!


The Big Lebowski – Production Starting Soon?

Dutch Pinball’s The Big Lebowski pinball machine was at the Dutch Pinball Open last week.  They had an older machine and a new engineering sample from their new contract manufacturer XYTECH.  They reported that most people couldn’t tell the difference between the two builds which is great news.  They released their newsletter recently (read the full newsletter update here), which included the following:

 

“The past weekend was an endurance test for the game and the results and notes will be communicated with Xytech as soon as possible so Xytech has time to build three new engineering samples which will be inspected personally by Barry early December when he visits the factory again with Cor Hagens (project leader of Xytech). If the new engineering samples are up to spec Barry will assist Xytech to prepare for production.

 

As soon as Barry, Cor and the Xytech production engineers are satisfied with the quality of the engineering samples and determined how the line will be set up for production, the production engineers will instruct the production team (about 10 employees) to assemble the machines. The first weeks the production engineers will accompany the production team.”

 

Star Wars Accessories Coming Soon

Stern mentioned in a Facebook comment that they are trying to get the topper and accessories ready in time for the holidays.  That timeline might get pushed into the new year based on the timing of approvals.  Star Wars owners are excited to see these upcoming accessories, and surely Stern would love to release them in time for the holidays just as much as owners would like to see them!


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Upcoming Games and Rumors

Stern Pinball

Most Recent Titles

  • Aerosmith
  • AC/DC Vault Edition
  • Star Wars
  • Guardians of the Galaxy

Announced/Confirmed

  • Elvira 3

Rumors of Future Titles

  • Iron Maiden?
  • Jurassic World?
  • Deadpool?
  • Pulp Fiction?
  • New Ka-Pow Title?
  • Steve Ritchie Unlicensed?
  • Keith Elwin Game?


Spooky Pinball

Most Recent Titles

  • Rob Zombie’s Spookshow International
  • Dominos (*contract game)
  • Jetsons (*contract game)
  • Total Nuclear Annihilation (*contract/house game)

Announced/Confirmed

  • Alice Cooper’s Nightmare Castle
  • Ben Heck’s game


American Pinball

Most Recent Titles

  • Houdini


Dutch Pinball

Most Recent Titles

  • Bride of Pinbot 2.0
  • Bride of Pinbot 3.0 (on hold)
  • The Big Lebowski (production issues)


Circus Maximus

  • The Pinball Circus Remake
  • Kingpin?


Silver Castle Pinball

  • Timeshock (coming soon)

Jersey Jack Pinball

Most Recent Titles

  • Wizard of Oz
  • The Hobbit
  • Dialed In
  • Pirates of the Caribbean

Rumors of Future Titles

  • Toy Story?
  • Willy Wonka?  <–NEW!!
  • The Muppets?


Chicago Gaming/Planetary Pinball

Most Recent Titles

  • Medieval Madness Remake
  • Attack From Mars Remake

Rumors of Future Titles

  • Monster Bash Remake?
  • Big Bang Bar Remake?
  • Cactus Canyon Remake?


Heighway Pinball

Most Recent Titles

  • Full Throttle
  • Alien (shipping)

Rumors of Future Titles

  • Queen?
  • Barry Oursler Licensed Theme  <NEW!!
  • Barry Oursler UnLicensed Theme  <NEW!!


P3 (Multimorphic)

  • Lexy Lightspeed
  • Cannon Lagoon
  • Cosmic Cart Racing


Homepin

  • Thunderbirds (coming soon)


Phénix Pinball

  • Olympic Goblin


Deeproot Pinball

  • Retro Atomic Zombie Adventureland?
  • Alice in Wonderland?
  • Magic Girl?

 

 

**TWIP dreams of the day Harry Potter Pinball will be added to these rumors. Ms. Rowling, I’d be willing to let Professor Lockhart fix my broken arm if you approve this!


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